Community Announcements and Classifieds
We have long had it in the back of our minds to provide a place for members of the community to post community event announcements and a place for a broad range of classified style advertisements. We have been discussing a number of different ways to do this, but most of them require more time to set up than we seem to have. The simplest way, even if it ends up temporary until a more sophisticated method is developed, seems to be to just post an entry each month and let people post their own announcements and classifieds just as they would post a comment. It may be somewhat difficult to format it to appear the way it is intended, but this will at least get the concept started. Any new post will end up in the "Recent Comments" box in the sidebar for people to see on the main page, at which time they can go to the appropriate entry to read the text.
The possibilities here are endless. I will post the entries separately, following this one, with a brief description and a couple of posts that have already been requested. Please make an effort to utilize the resource in order to help get it off the ground.
And please, if you have any suggestions on ways to make this work better, please leave a comment here.
Thanks,
Barry E. Lamb
Bayville






After reading this blog for the first time, I would like to post something positive about our community, especially in light of the nonsense posted on the St. Gertrudes thread.
Twelve children from our community went to Cooperstown, NY a little more than a week ago and enjoyed a week of pure, wonderful baseball. The Falcons 12U team won four (4) games against teams from all over the country. To put that in perspective, in the last three(3) years teams from our area have won a total of three games in Cooperstown. I am proud beyond words of these kids. They competed on a level that even shocked me. They all did something amazing. All the hard work, the practices, and the numerous local games all paid off in the end. The coaches were outstanding and the parents could not have been more supportive. It is an experience I will never forget and I know the children will always remember. Thanks to everyone who helped us along the way with sponsorships or just stopping by the car washes or buying a raffle. Watch these kids as they mature into future stars.
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thanks dave for your post. it is very refreshing to read a positive post.
we are aware great things are being accomplished in this town quite often. but even as small as this town is we still don't hear about everything.
congrats to the kids, parents and all their supporters.
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Thanks, Dave. I also thought the community should know that the 11U Falcons Travel Team has advanced to the NJBL Central Division Championship Series. It is a best of three series against Massapequa which will begin Saturday 8/9 at 9:00 a.m. at West Harbor. Why not come down and see these kids play? You will not be disappointed.
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In regards to community issues Bayville is in desperate need of a skatepark. We have the money and insurence is not an issue unlike what the dictator ( Mayor Siegel) says. All participants have to do is sign A waiver releasing the town of all injuries and accidents. They tell us not to ride in town, they tell us not to ride in Harrison Woods, and they just expect us to sit around and do nothing?! Bottom line- Bayville needs a skatepark and we will not rest until we have one
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wait - there's a dictator in bayville? i'm sorry but my corporate sponsorship must now be withdrawn.
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lol! good for you tony hawk! maybe bergin II will ask his daddy for skatepark in the town of oyster bay
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Ken, If that is your real name. You obviously know who we are and where we live, so if you would contact me and we can set up an appointment I will be happy to answer your questions. I do not answer questions on a blog with anonymous people
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Oooo, it's MR MARCHAND! Oh this is getting juicy! First - the sister comes in and criticizes Ken's common mistake of "your" for "you're". Now granted, it does happen to be a pet peeve of mine! But I wouldn't be so petty as to point that out to someone who was responding to her sister - who was waxing poetic about people with small minds. So it's good to know that Margaret thinks her own sister has a small mind. ...... and a husband who can't even figure out which thread to threaten poor ol' Ken in. All he did was politely ask Mrs. Marchand some questions. Did Mrs. Marchand have a sudden carpal tunnel syndrome attack? Should we send flowers?
I don't know who Ken/KM is. Maybe he knows me. But from comments he's made, he seems rather civilized and level-headed.
The Marchand family should just try and get along. That's all. Stop suing the Village and taxpayers/strangers but fellow residents, won't care what you do with your lives - as long as you don't infringe on theirs.
So let me, someone who is not anonymous, re-ask the questions Ken/KM posed to Mrs. Marchand because her answers would be of interest to me.
KM wrote:
Mrs. Marchand, please set the record straight:
1. Is your lawsuit about trying to eliminate through traffic by Valentines Beach ?
2. If so why?
3. How many times have you brought this suit to court ?
4. Now that it seems you've lost will you give up this litigation against the village that costs all of us who pay taxes money ?
Four questions. That shouldn't be too tough for a someone with teaching certification. I expect perfect punctuation and spelling. Otherwise you will upset Edie!
And I know you know who I am and where I live too, Ron.
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Lisa,
I thought you were moving? No one thinks what you do is helpful to any situation. I would not answer your questions with the way you present them and I am sure no one else would either. I hope Ken does contact Mr. Marchand and get the answers he is looking for. Its not healthy to go through life with so much hostility. If you dont liek the way your tax dollars are being spent you have to options either move or vote for someone else next time. Personally I would hope you pick the first option.
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How do you know what everyone thinks? Are you the amazing Karnac? And what hostility? Didn't you see the two smiley faces? I find this family's actions entertaining. Do you have a good buyer for my house? Send em over! I'll consider a reasonable offer.
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Mr. Marchand, as a lower east-ender I really don't know who you are or where you live. Nor do I care I asked some simple questions that have not been answered period. With regards to contacting you to set up a meeting HUH??? What would we call it "the Dead End Summit"
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I am new to this village, it appeared to be a very pleasant place to move too and raise a family, well at least that's what I thought unitl I started to read this blog. Lisa I do not know who you are, but at this point I would give you whatever you want for your house, just to get rid of you. I'll be completely honest with you, its none of our business if Mr. Marchand is going to bring suit against the village again, its his business not yours or mine. He has the right as a US citizen to do what ever he wants. If I was him, I would, providing that I had the money to do so. Ken, your a complete stranger to this man, mind your own business, I understand that this is a blog, my vision of a blog would be information sharing not name calling and personal attacks. We as adults need to be a little more mature. I started to read the blog thinking I would learn more about bayville, but all I read is everyone's dirty laundry. Ken and Lisa, leave the Marchand's alone I'm sure they are nice people just different then you. Ron can I call you up so we could talk, but not about your court
case. Just Kidding.
I'm sure the residents of bayville have more important information that they would like to share with people like me. What about the upcoming election, any word on a potential candidate for mayor. What about a skate park that would be great for my kids. I came from Jamesport and the village had a skate park. The kids loved it. One last point, the village of jamesport was never sued. Everyone needs to take off their attorney hat and stop and think. No comments on misspelled word or incorrect grammar please. Thanks. Peter , Lisa be gentle with me.
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Mr. Capone,
Welcome to Bayville...or should I say Litigation, NY. Everything is a lawsuit or at least a threat of a lawsuit around here. Lisa knows what she's talking about. She defends the people who she thinks have been wronged, in the world AND in Bayville. And I think we've all been wronged by this lawsuit against the village by the Marchand's. Lisa simply wants answers...and so do I.
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Mr Capone- Well said!
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Mr. Capone, let me see if I understand your view, it's okay for you and certain other people to express your point of view but I shouldn't ? It's none of my business when our village has to spend big bucks on lawsuits ??can you please explain that one ?? But the best was the "attorney hat " remark who's wearing the hat ?? not me . I'm a simple guy who asks simple questions in a respectful manner . The Marchand's seem unable to answer them, which tells me all I need to know about them . Lets see if you can do better. Thanks and have a great life Ken
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Peter Capone,
$750,000, AS IS, not subject to an engineers report, with a written mortgage commitment - and we'll sign contract immediately.
Gentle enough?
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Patroit, the name is stupid, here is the defination of pariot a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, esp. of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government. If you brught siut against the village for some undisclosed reason and you lost its none of mine or anyones else business, its ours and the village. It is the right all US citizens to seek legal counsel if they feel they are right. It is the courts that determine if you are right or wrong. The residents in question should be left alone, Here is a topic to get everyone's attention off this issue, the great govern of new york is proposing major finical cuts to schools and medicaid. Or the county may have a new county executive.
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Patriot,
Thanks for the kind words.
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I guess we all know whose wearin the lawyer hat .PATRIOT THE NAME IS STUPID this after you just get done pontificating about civility classic .
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Having brought a suit against this Village myself (in which I prevailed) I don't recall any taxpayer or blogger offering to pay my legal expenses since my property rights were not being upheld by this village. I'm sure I'm not the only one and I'm happy to live in this fine country where there is a legal recourse available to everyone who wishes to partake.
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Ken, I'm having a hard time understanding why you need to know someone business. If you want to know about the law suit so bad call the village. The Marchand are not obligated to talk to you. Its their business, that is what I'm saying. I did not insult anyone or accuse anyone of anything. If you brought suit against the village it between you and the other party not me, do you think your taxes went up because of this law suit, probably not, so stop whinning and get over it, be mature man and talk about something else.
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At least I have the B#$% to state my name, you are hiding behind clsed doors, protecting your identity. Be a man and state your name.
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agree that using a real name should be encouraged!
yours, etc., tony hawk
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Mr. Capone,
>>>>>>>>>but at this point I would give you whatever you want for your house, just to get rid of you.>>>>>>>
Didn't expect the reply I gave you, eh? Not gonna put your money where your mouth is? Tsk, tsk. I went to the attic to start packing last night! What a disappointment!
As a newcomer, what you need to understand is, SOME people, appear to be habitual litigators. They don't take NO for an answer. As a taxpayer in this Village for over 30 years, I resent a portion of our hardearned taxdollars having to go for legal counsel for the Village to defend against frivolous lawsuits by SOME people. In this last case, I believe the lawsuit also caused the Village to lose access to a 6 figure grant for drainage because the Village couldn't meet the deadline due to the litigation.
If East Ender had a legitimate suit against the Village in which she prevailed, bravo! But this nonsense about nobody offering to pay her legal expenses - excuse me East Ender, but did you somehow purchase your home without title insurance?
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I would like to thank everyone from Bayville who visited my Online Mall at www.Wherz-it.com. In November alone, we had over 2,000 shoppers. Although not all of these people were from Bayville, the Bayville representation was near the top of the numbers ranking in our Google analytics. Once again, thank you.
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Lisa,
Mis information AGAIN. Is that all you are good at?????
The Village did not lose any grant for drainage because of Marchand's legal actions. The project is being done now. I live in the area and know for a fact because that was thrown out at one of the meetings a few months ago and the Mayor herself said the grant was not lost and work would commence shortly, which it has. However I did hear that another family has stopped the work from being done after all the plans had been approved and the village is planning on taking legal action. Why don't you see how your taxes are being spent??? Another lawsuit in the works, and another reason you should move, maybe???
Mr. Marchand discussed his ongoing case with the trustees last month. I am sure all your questions could be answered. I was not there but I did here this from a friend of mine who I believe was present. By the way I also believe it is the Marc hand's title insurance company fighting the fight for them- but do not quote me on that I could be wrong but, i have heard rumors of that.
In general why don't you get the facts before opening your mouth, we would all appreciate it.
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Wansor resident,
I said, "I believe". I am happy to be shown I was incorrect in what I perceived as the situation. I know the project was severely delayed and the grant was in jeopardy due to the litigation. If our Village workers hadn't been as diligent as they were in keeping on top of the extension requests, the grant would have been lost and the cost foisted upon the homeowners. I just checked with Village Hall and in fact today, the Village filed what it hopes will be the final "no-cost time extension" request.
If another family is attempting to obstruct drainage improvements to the area, and the Village is pursuing whatever legal action is necessary to force them to comply with project already underway and funded, I have no problem with my tax dollars being spent on the "right" cause.
And before you open your mouth, did it ever occur to you that I realized Marchand's title company was picking up their legal costs, which is why I asked East Ender the question I did?
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T H thats pretty rich coming from you, now go get a job at the Food Bucket and make some $$ . good luck Ken
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if you have nothing to do and want to support the families of 9/11 trying to stop bringing terrorist conspirators to trial in a New York City civilian court.
come tomorrow
http://www.keepamericasafe.com/?page_id=1822
http://www.911neverforget.us/
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Please be careful tomorrow, pat. I have a bad gut feeling that there's going to be trouble. Did you hear Eric Holder is speaking at a church in Roosevelt? All we need is Marshall law in NYC.
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I like the idea. I can't think of anything I'm going to enjoy more than seeing a jury of New Yorker's send these jack-asses to the gurney. Im praying I get on that jury! It's not a New York City civilian court - its a Federal Criminal Court - they've had the embassy bombing cases on their docket for over a year. The guys who are going to prosecute this case are the same ones who went to Iraq and put Sadam's neck in a noose!
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If I had a legitimate suit you say? What's with the if? Do you recall the Village recently suing anyone for a frivolous action? No? Title insurance had nothing to do with my case. My point was that if some of you think that the Village is entitled to reimbursement of its legal expenses because it "won" a legal case shouldn't then any resident who has been prevailed against the village be entitled to the same? Let's not go down that road.
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just file a counter suit for damages
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Lamarca wouldn't have let it go to trial if it was fivolous. he is a real gentlman. too bad for nassau he is retiring.
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Dear Fellow Bayvillelites:
Being a resident of Bayville for over 50+ years I have something to say. Valentines Beach has been a part of my life, as a child I remember swimming there, the road should never be closed I don't care who you are or how much money you have, people drive by, they walk by to enjoy the view, and a law suit get over it Mr. Marchand you moved here as it was why do you have to change it? Are you going to buy the house across the street and knock it down so you can have a view? Leave things alone you don't own the street. I walk by daily and I drive by at least 2 times a week to enjoy the view. Why waste everyone's time the only one to gain here is you let it go. You really should not come into a village and try to change everything, this is a small quaint town, you moved here for a reason if you want a bigger piece of property MOVE, stop aggravating everyone in town, we are nice people you were told no now except it and move on.
Sincerely.
Long Time Bayville Resident
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Bayville Dog Park!!! Sounds great doesn't it? There are so many dog owners in Bayville and the closest dark park is Cristopher Morley by Manhassett or Wantagh dog park. It would be great if we could knock down those abandoned buildings by the scream park and put up a nice Dog Park and Park for the wonderful residents of Bayville, and there are plenty of those (both two legged and four legged). So I'm not sure if Mayor Siegel reads this but it would be great for our community.
Thank you
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The village should look into making a dog park with the land behind the church, I believe the church sold the property to the village. You could just clear some land and make a dog park, I'm all for the idea, we may have a lamduck mayor, remember she is leaving soon.
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Dog park? In Bayville? God...I hope not. It's bad enough the people in this town don't curb their dogs. But, hey...let's let them crap behind the church! Maybe for my child's 1st communion, my family and I can breathe in dog crap on the way up the steps. Seriously people, come on!
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A dog Park is a great idea
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A Dog Park - Bring it up at the next meeting. I think it's a great idea. Apparently the vacant buildings have plans and if I am not mistaken they have been approved. I thought I read somthing in the Leader or one of those local papers. What about getting the skating rink back in use??? It's discusting back there and it used to be so much fun when we were kids.
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Before everyone is all yeah dog park, what about the noise and smell. And what about people with alergies. Let's see how popular it would be if it was proposed in your back yard. It would need to be in an already public area like a beach or park. try again!
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A dog park is a great idea! Those of you criticizing it should go visit a dog park, they are not noisy and they do NOT smell! People who care enough to take their dogs to a dog park will clean up after them! PLEASE put one in my back yard so my dog has a place to run free.
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I think thats terrific that so many of you think a dog park is a great idea too. I just feel bad because there really isn't anywhere that dogs can go. The beaches are off limits and the school yards are too. For those of you with concerns thats good too because its feedback like yours that help make projects like this successful for everyone. After all, if anything happens in Bayville it should address the wants and concerns of all residents.
In response to an earlier post, I think thats great that someone has shown interest in developing the vacant buildings in town.
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Reason #1 why it's NOT a good idea for a dog park. Do you think the residents of Oak Point would be happy about this, if the park was located on the hill behind the church? I think not. Here goes:
Dog owners do not clean up after their dogs. In dog parks and on the street, dog owners are legally required to clean up after their dogs. Failure to do so can result in fines, can cause the spread of disease, and might prompt the civic authorities to close the dog park entirely. For example, a neighborhood in Los Angeles that is adjacent to a dog park commissioned a study of the bacteria in rainwater flowing down from the dog park, through the streets and into the public storm drains. The levels of harmful bacteria went off the charts. As a result, the neighborhood is exerting pressure on City Hall to close or restrict the dog park.
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Reasons #2,3 and 4:
2)Some dogs are inappropriate for a dog park. One of the most reported problems is that irresponsible dog owners bring the wrong dogs to dog parks. Unneutered male dogs and other aggressive dogs may prompt dog fights, with people and dogs being bitten. Overly aggressive, overly assertive, overly unruly, and undersocialized dogs to not belong in a dog park. Similarly, puppies and fearful dogs can be dangerous, because they might fight or bite as a fear reaction. When dogs fight in a dog park, people sometimes get bitten, and there may follow an altercation between the responsible owner and the irresponsible one.
3)Injuries to people. There currently are no reported legal opinions about injuries to people that occur in dog parks, but some conclusions are possible. People who suffer bodily injuries or injuries to their dogs have most of the usual rights in dog parks that they have outside such places. Leash-optional parks are not zones of immunity for irresponsible dog owners and dangerous dogs. Basically, leash-optional dog parks merely are places where the city's leash laws do not apply. They are not, however, Wild West frontier towns where dogs can fight it out and attack people without fear of the Sheriff!
4)Ambiguous waiver of rights / assumption of risk. Dog owners should carefully read the signs that are posted around dog parks. Warning signs might result in a waiver of rights or an assumption of risk. One of the problems here is exactly what risks are being assumed. For example, a sign that says Use the park at your own risk means what? Can such a sign deprive you of the right to be free of danger from a dog that was previously declared dangerous? Exactly which risks are you agreeing to accept? There have been no reported legal opinions about the signs at dog parks. (See the discussion below regarding Assumption of the Risk.)
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And last but not least. A negative opinion (or an obvious copy and paste job like this) cannot fully be recognized without mentioning the all important LAWSUIT factor. This idea has lawsuit written all over it. Are you all prepared to foot the bill for the Village if they had to defend themselves against a dog bite lawsuit?
Last note... (and pay attention to the last part):
The victim of a personal injury or injury to the victim's dog probably will not prevail on a claim against the local government entity that established the dog park. Generally, there are immunities that protect government entities from many claims; if the entity believed that it was doing something beneficial for the community, it is hard to get around the immunity.
However, failure to enforce its own rules and regulations may result in governmental liability. Dog parks frequently are governed by special rules that are either posted or part of the local municipal code. If an irresponsible dog owner has a habit of breaking those rules, and the local animal control officers do nothing despite being informed, a person who sustains personal injuries or injuries to his or her dog may prevail against the municipality.
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Well said "pooped". And to Joe if you don't have room for your dog then you shouldn't have gotten it in the first place. My dog runs free in my fenced yard. As should yours!
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Oh come on, Pooped, please... you can do better than this, surely? You have the honesty to admit your copy and paste, but to lift it without credit from a site put together by an ambulance-chasing California lawyer is a bit rich! Anyway, I fell asleep half way through Mr. Kenneth M. Phillip's diatribe... what a load of poppycock.
Most dog owners - at least, those who seek to exercise their dogs and give them a good life, rather than use them as caged burglar alarms - are responsible people. Those I know certainly clean up after their dogs, as I clean up after mine. Heck, there are even companies that do this for a living (not my choice of profession, I concede, but I state fact). It is a frustration to many, I am sure, that in otherwise beautiful surroundings there is nowhere in Bayville to legally let your pet run free. The nearest dog park is many miles away. I'd certainly back any proposal for such a park in the Village. And so would my dog, being a sociable lass. The back yard gets a bit lonely after a while, and even the most dedicated dog gets a little fed up chasing the same squeaky toy all day without the company of peers
Mark
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Poppycock huh?
"Most dog owners - at least, those who seek to exercise their dogs and give them a good life, rather than use them as caged burglar alarms - are responsible people."
I see more dog crap around Bayville then I do on a city street. And there is also a problem with dogs being unleashed around here. I personally have pictures of 4....yes 4 different dogs on my property. I have to keep a camera close to my front door because of this. Many gifts have been left behind by these dogs mind you. But I will start leaving gifts of my own for them.....a nice big cyanide milk bone should do the trick. And too bad the dog warden is so hard to get in touch with and is never anywhere to found.....
Thank you Mark for being such a responsible dog owner. Unfortunately, you're outnumbered by the irresponsible ones.
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the "no dogs allowed" sign has disapeared -as mysteriously as it appeared - from Valentine beach - take your dogs there and let them have a nice swim!
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Does anyone know a place nearby where folks get together for pick-up basketball games? Does St Getrudes open their doors at night? The high school? Usually the churches in other towns allow people inside to use their gym to play some hoops. I'm very interested in playing some ball soon. Thanks...
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A dog park works for me, I think it is a great idea. Who cares what the residents of oak neck have to say, if the village owns the property behind the church this would be a perfect location. The perimeter of said property is not in proximity to so many houses. As far as the dog waste, it would be the dog owners responsibility to remove the waste, I too believe that the dog owners who would visit the park would remove the waste. As far as the dog watcher, if you have a problem with a loose dog around your house call the TOB and they will send someone out, I have personally called and they responded spoke with the dog owner and issued them a warning. They were very effective. Stop being so negative, we need to expand our minds. Should we just come home from work lock our doors and stay in our houses. This our village, we should get what we want, remember they work for us, we should be dictating what happens our village. The village would not be liable if someones dog bite someone at the dog park, its the dog owners responsibility. If I was walking my dog around the village hall circle and my dog bit someone would the village be open to a lawsuit, I do not think so, POOPED, I tied of negative people like yourself. BTW, is Lisa on vacation, she has not said anything yet.
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"Who cares what the residents of oak neck have to say"
Good luck Mr. Trauma if you decide to run for any office around here again. I'm sure the residents of Oak Point would have a lot to say.......That kind of attitude will get you NOWHERE. I think that "Who cares what you think?" should be your next campaign slogan....
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BTW - Your post exudes an extreme amount of negativity, Mr. Trauma.....perhaps you should try to live by your own advice
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Awwww, did you miss me, Mr. Trama? Actually, I was sitting back rather enjoying the mindless banter. A dog park? Seriously? I've got an idea. Why don't you folks run your dogs in the Fidel woods, eh?
And Capt. Morgan, how about you lay off the rum? The Village has NOT purchased the church property, the property is still being considered for preservation status. Anyone who thinks the Village would spend over $1M in this economic climate for a dog park, must work for the Democrats!
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Village of Bayville has Basketball some nights. See link below.
http://www.bayvilleny.gov/recreation/summer-beach-activities-2009.php
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To WOW, you say I'm negative, well I strongly disagree with you, all that I was saying was "I support the idea of a dog park". to be negative means, lacking in constructive thoughts or refusing to consent. In no way was my posting lacking constructive thinking or refuse to consent, I refuse to conform to the way things have been done around bayville for the past 10 years. I think the mayor and her administration have done a great job especially in applying and receiving million of dollars in grant money, but there are other areas that the administration have been stagnate. A village such as Bayville needs to be about the residents, the village needs to respond to needs and wishes of its residents. Sometimes we forget that we all work for someone, we forget that there are some great ideas other then the ones that come from our own party. I'm very glad to see the mayor working with local businesses to revitalize the broken down building, that it such great news, but well overdue. When I said "who cares what the resident of oak neck have to say" what I meant was bring up the idea, present the idea, speak to the residents and then come up with the best plan. Just don't say no because someone may get offended or not like your idea. Maybe in the long run, having a dog park is not the best thing, but at least someone tried. If you are okay with accepting defeat without even trying then thats great for you, but I myself try and try again until I get want I want.
WOW, next time please get the spelling of my name right, no "U". Lisa glad to see your comments, thought mr. capone bought your house and you moved.
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It's interesting to see how your town has changed from your earlier post, Mr. Trama. I guess the mention of a prospective election was all it took.
"Should we just come home from work lock our doors and stay in our houses?" Was that a constructive thought?
I'm not saying it to bicker, but it's amazing to me how people think and what they feel that they are entitled to. And yes, someone would sue the village if they were in charge of the park if bitten and if you think differently, just remember the litigious residents we have here. I'm all for improving the village, but I would like to see a playground, for the young children, like there used to be behind village hall with some benches and and picnic tables. And that's if they even develop it. I think it would be in the best interest of the community to leave it as nature intended, with nothing. I think, just like a skate park, a dog park would be a move in the wrong direction.
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A dog park???
At one time I would think what a crazy idea!
After traveling west this summer with our dog Mitchell I found that dog parks are the best thing for a dog. We found a beautiful one in Colorado Springs with a running spring. Mitchell loved it! I was afraid to let him off the leash thinking he would never return...but he did!!! In fact he ran off to play but most of the time he stayed right with us. Not one dog attempted to bite a person. While the dogs were loose they ignored everyone...they joined their pack and ran and played! It seemed that when the dogs were on leashes they were more aggressive.
The parks we visited were maintained by volunteers.
Please keep me in mind if Bayville opens a dog park I would love to volunteer to maintain it.
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Penny, you are breathe of fresh air, its amazes me to hear such a great sorry. In NYS all patients that present to an ER with a dog bite have to be called into that counties DOH. Looking at NYS DOH dog bite stats where dog bites occured, dog park or any municpal park was not listed. fact #2, must dog bites occur to a person visiting a home with a dog, Over 50 percent of the bites occur on the dog owner's property, The vast majority of biting dogs (77%) belong to the victim's family or a friend.
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Mr. Trama,
>>>>>>>>>Lisa glad to see your comments, thought mr. capone bought your house and you moved.>>>>>>>>>>>
Apparently Mr. Capone is just a blowhard bully who won't put his money where his mouth is. I stated my price and terms. Maybe you would like to beat him to the contract table?
Penny,
Tell ya what. I'll finish fencing in my yard and you can bring Mitchell and his canine buddies over to chase my cats around for exercise. As long as you pick up their poo. Everyone other than Penny has to pay $5 for 1/2 an hour.
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thanks lisa...you are a true friend!!!
My yard is fenced in...he just needs a playground to run...like children need playgrounds, dogs also need space and freedom.
socializing dogs, as children, is part of a healthy life.
i also have an electric fence so he doesn't need to be on a leash on my property, but also so that he doesn't run onto Bayville Aveneue's speeders on cell phones!!!
I also saw how he needed a playmate and bought another dog!!!
I know it sounds crazy but a dog park here in Bayville would be a nice addition.
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Penny,
You bought Mitchell a playmate? That's too cute, you're nuts - send me a pic on Facebook!
And take them to the beach, we don't need no stinkin dog park .... LOL!
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Mr Trama,
You're backtracking like a true politician! Unfortunately for you, the backtracking usually takes place AFTER you've secured a seat. Good luck next time.
Penny,
Colorado Springs: 186.1 square miles with a population of 380,307.
Bayville: 1.5 square miles with a population of 7,135
Do the math. I know you're smart enough to know where I'm going with this.....
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Lemme guess Pooped. You're one of the Bayvillites who are against thriving businesses, kids, pets, and anyone who wouldn't fit into a retirement community. The number of people here who are against anything that would draw people together is insane. I realize many people like the small town atmosphere, but there's a difference between a small town and a washed up old folks community.
A business goes under, and everybody whines about the vacant building. A business succeeds and everyone whines about the traffic.
Kids have nowhere to go and nothing to do but hang out on a stoop in town, yet anytime someone mentions building something geared to them everyone goes up in arms. The same people whine about them hanging out in town. I'm sure half the village admire the people who sued those poor kids for enjoying their pool in the middle of the day.
And finally, there's the rampant racism. I've been here for one year, and I've already encountered more racism then I have my entire life. I fell in love when I saw this town, but the people here have me wanting to run.
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This town is nuts. Edith Wykoff, the original owner and editor of The Leader for over 50 years, used to say that Bayville suffers from the "Mars Syndrome" - in other words, it's like no other place on earth.
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Lisa,
LOL...Her name is Nikki, she is also a Jack Russell.
I would love to take them to the beach but the signs say...no dogs!!!
Have a great Christmas.
Maybe I will try the agility training in Huntington...or the dog park in Lido, Christopher Morley, Wantagh, East Rockaway, Seaford. I think there are about 6 or 7 in Suffolk county.....
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Lisa - While I understand the want to keep the small village feel (it's what brought me here), these people bring it to insane levels. Outsiders like myself are left with the feeling that we're invading criminals. We are a mixed family, and we're treated like we belong in the projects. My husband is a computer network technician and I'm an executive assistant. We've never been on welfare. When we moved in, a neighbor started screaming at my husband from across the street for moving in too late in the day. It was 7pm, not even dark out. We were just finishing up. He said something along the lines of working too hard all his life to stay here, only to have us move in next door.
Then, I heard of the Village Church Thrift Shop, and how people are trying to get it shut down because it brings in the wrong element, aka needy families. Thankfully my family has never needed to visit the shop, but I feel for those that so, especially in this economic climate.
The sense of entitlement and lack of empathy around here is astonishing. We're trying to move out before my son is old enough to attend school here. The thought of trying to join the PTA here is downright frightening.
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Town is Nuts:
I'm sorry to hear of your bad experiences to date, but don't write the place off yet! There are some wonderful people in the PTA in Bayville, and it's certainly very active and dedicated to its children. A little parochial? Perhaps. But that brings with it good local friendships that you would be unlikely to achieve in a larger town.
Some of the problems you identify exist, yes. But I'd like to think that such narrowmindedness - nay, ignorance - is not as widespread as you might believe. Times are changing, anyway, and even some adults are becoming better educated!
Good luck and the best for the Season,
Mark
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Dear This Town is Nuts,
I am sorry to hear of the racial hatred you have experienced here. It is the ultimate hypocrisy of Bayville residents who swear by their precious International Baccalaureate HS proclaiming how open and globally minded they and their offspring are, while threatening to burn down their neighbor's house if they sell to a black family. Absolutely disgraceful. And they're not just prejudice against blacks. Jews, Asians and Hispanics aren't exactly welcome by some, either.
Empathy does exist, I think that in times of extreme trouble, our residents do give openly and warmly. I know I raised money for the American Red Cross after the Galveston hurricane, and people gave generously. The 1992 flood brought out the best of our residents, bringing supplies up to the shelter, helping neighbors made homeless by the flood. Unfortunately, there are very tight cliques in Bayville and Locust Valley, and some of the kids are beyond cruel. They learn it from their parents and all of the anti-bullying and IB programs in the world, aren't going to counteract what they learn at home.
There are good people here. I wouldn't worry about joining the PTA. Most parents don't really involve themselves with it anyway. Seriously, there were rarely more than 10-15 parents at a PTA meeting. Consider joining the Glen Cove YMCA, it's a really nice facility, the Grenville Baker Boys & Girls Club in LV is nice for the children, and seriously, and think about saving for parochial school.
Anyway, welcome to Bayville despite the whackos. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
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Nuts -
As someone who has been around for a long time, I agree that there are very primitive thinkers around here. Additionally, if your children are of the school age, there are cliques of parents. The PTA is ok, if you are a stay-at-home mom and are part of the clique. I agree with Lisa that there are good people here as well as bad, just like anywhere. You just have to know who you want to associate with.
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To This Towns Nuts, do not label entire town because a few bad apples. I can not imagine how you felt when those people treated the way they did but, like everyone has, this village does have some great, kind people who really do care. Lisa mentioned the flood of '92, the residents of bayville pulled together, they assisting everyone who needed help. I remember when there was a house fire a few days before christmas and the family lost everything, the residents pulled together and brought gifts for the families. It is sad that people are mean to one another, but that is only a small percentage. There are plenty of people in bayville who do accept others and could care less what color you are or what country you come from. Bayville is not a melting pot of different nationalities, but we care about others. The people on the blog accept you.
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That's right! A town full of small minded people who think that just because you're a foreign born, chain-smoking muslim you're not good enough to be President!
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Who said anything about chain-smoking?
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Hats off to the Bayville snow plow drivers!
I went for a walk on Sunday morning and I was impressed with the plow drivers. I saw two of them working the back roads west of Perry and they had those streets plowed out in no time.
I just got to work today and everyone is telling me the horror stories of their towns and the mess the streets are still in and I'm greatful that I don't have any bad stories to tell.
Thanks plow guys!
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Just want to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone, especially those who live in Bayville. Stay safe and don't drink and drive (especially with children in the car)because Leandra's Law has made it a Felony to do so. Good luck in 2010!!
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Bavillian - Felony should be the least of anyone's concerns if there are children in the car, no?
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Here's wishing all friends and neighbors - and all who contribute to the Bayville Blog - a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukah, Happy Kwanza. May your 2010 be prosperous and peaceful. Or, at the very least, positive!
Mark
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geez-this guiy had his 4 year old in the back!
Article Credit is the Locust Valley Leader.
Last Updated: December 29, 2009
Narcotics Arrest in Oyster Bay
Two arrests for narcotics occurred on Friday, December 18, in Oyster Bay.
At approximately 9:30pm, Nassau County Police Department undercover narcotics detectives, while in the parking lot of Stop n’ Shop located on Pine Hollow Road, observed a male operator of a black Nissan SUV park his vehicle and then enter the front passenger seat of an Explorer parked where he engaged in a transaction with the driver of that vehicle.
When the detectives approached the vehicle and identified themselves, the operator of the Explorer, in an attempt to flee, put the auto in reverse and rammed the unmarked police vehicle, causing damage to the passenger side doors and mirror. The operator then fled from the Explorer and a foot-pursuit ensued. The subject also fought with detectives when they apprehended him. Recovered from the vehicle were several bags of what appeared to be cocaine, several bags of what appeared to be heroin and approximately $1,700 in U.S. currency. The operator of the black SUV, was in possession of what appeared to be cocaine when he was taken into custody, had his 4 year-old son in the rear seat of his vehicle. The child was released to his mother.
Defendant Deron Barnes 27, of 36 Cocks Lane, Locust Valley was arrested and charged with Criminal Possession of a Controlled Substance 3rd Degree, Criminal Sale of a Controlled Substance 3rd Degree, Criminal Possession of a Controlled Substance 4th Degree, Criminal Mischief 3rd Degree and Resisting Arrest.
Defendant Jesse Firestone 31, of 625 Fulton Avenue, Farmingdale, was arrested and charged with Criminal Possession of a Controlled Substance 4th Degree.
Both defendants were arraigned in First District Court, Hempstead on December 19.
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And why was this dirtbag given a pass by NCPD on a "child endangerment" charge? A little reverse discrimination so CPS wouldn't have to be involved perhaps? How terribly PC of them.
http://www.longislandpress.com/2009/12/20/two-arrested-for-narcotics-in-oyster-bay/
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